sarahtaylorgibson:


Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones
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sarahtaylorgibson:


Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones
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sarahtaylorgibson:


Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones
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sarahtaylorgibson:


Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones
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sarahtaylorgibson:


Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones
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sarahtaylorgibson:


Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones
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sarahtaylorgibson:

Slytherin!Harry AU (x)

#slytherin harry would have been the ultimate choice from an authorial perspective#the chosen one coming out of a house disgraced by racism and the dark arts#a living testament to the fact that slytherin house is the fast track to greatness and that good or evil is a CHOICE#also harry already had a brush with slytherin during his sorting and can speak parseltounge and all that awesome stuff#because lets be real harry is brave as hell but hes also cunning, determined to survive#a little duplicitious#and thrives on praise#slytherin harry could be besties with ron AND close to Draco#he could break down interhouse prejudice and be the bright light in a noble house that has fallen into darkness#he could put an end to the honestly awful Griffyndor/Slytherin bullying that GOES BOTH WAYS because screw this idea that you have to choose a side, that you have to compete with people who are different than you#and he could struggle with his inner demons the whole time#because characters that could easily go bad who get up every day choosing to be good will always be more important to me than inhernetly good ones

primavega:

David Tennant about his victory in the RadioTimes Television Champion tournament: 
"I was thrilled! Absolutely delighted!" Tennant told us, before checking the numbers just to be sure…
"Wow, how many votes were there? That’s ridiculous. Nine million votes!"
The former Doctor Who star was clearly overwhelmed by the trouble his fans had taken to vote for him but was also worries about the effect his victory might have on his colleague Cumberbatch.  
"That’s very lovely," said Tennant. "But don’t tell Benedict, whatever you do. Let’s just keep that between us – you, me and the nine million…"
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primavega:

David Tennant about his victory in the RadioTimes Television Champion tournament: 
"I was thrilled! Absolutely delighted!" Tennant told us, before checking the numbers just to be sure…
"Wow, how many votes were there? That’s ridiculous. Nine million votes!"
The former Doctor Who star was clearly overwhelmed by the trouble his fans had taken to vote for him but was also worries about the effect his victory might have on his colleague Cumberbatch.  
"That’s very lovely," said Tennant. "But don’t tell Benedict, whatever you do. Let’s just keep that between us – you, me and the nine million…"
(x)
UHQ photo: 
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 
Source: https://vk.com/dt_asylum 
Zoom Info
primavega:

David Tennant about his victory in the RadioTimes Television Champion tournament: 
"I was thrilled! Absolutely delighted!" Tennant told us, before checking the numbers just to be sure…
"Wow, how many votes were there? That’s ridiculous. Nine million votes!"
The former Doctor Who star was clearly overwhelmed by the trouble his fans had taken to vote for him but was also worries about the effect his victory might have on his colleague Cumberbatch.  
"That’s very lovely," said Tennant. "But don’t tell Benedict, whatever you do. Let’s just keep that between us – you, me and the nine million…"
(x)
UHQ photo: 
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 
Source: https://vk.com/dt_asylum 
Zoom Info
primavega:

David Tennant about his victory in the RadioTimes Television Champion tournament: 
"I was thrilled! Absolutely delighted!" Tennant told us, before checking the numbers just to be sure…
"Wow, how many votes were there? That’s ridiculous. Nine million votes!"
The former Doctor Who star was clearly overwhelmed by the trouble his fans had taken to vote for him but was also worries about the effect his victory might have on his colleague Cumberbatch.  
"That’s very lovely," said Tennant. "But don’t tell Benedict, whatever you do. Let’s just keep that between us – you, me and the nine million…"
(x)
UHQ photo: 
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 
Source: https://vk.com/dt_asylum 
Zoom Info

primavega:

David Tennant about his victory in the RadioTimes Television Champion tournament: 

"I was thrilled! Absolutely delighted!" Tennant told us, before checking the numbers just to be sure…

"Wow, how many votes were there? That’s ridiculous. Nine million votes!"

The former Doctor Who star was clearly overwhelmed by the trouble his fans had taken to vote for him but was also worries about the effect his victory might have on his colleague Cumberbatch.  

"That’s very lovely," said Tennant. "But don’t tell Benedict, whatever you do. Let’s just keep that between us – you, me and the nine million…"

(x)

UHQ photo: 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 

Source: https://vk.com/dt_asylum 

arsenicjade:

dammit-mcu:

therealdeepsix:

fyeahwintersoldier:


#this scene is so sad cry with me #the foreshadowing hahah b y e #the way he delivers that line with this sort of defeated humility like dam n seb #the scene wasn’t just a punch line for him and you could feel that

Those tags. Perfect

But what I don’t get is why we don’t see more of this in fic. Because even knowing the circumstances, for Bucky to say something like that to Steve is straight up mean, and he knows it. He has to know how personally Steve took his perpetual failure to be noticed; Steve didn’t really make much of a secret of it. He knows that this is one of Steve’s insecurities, and he goes right for it, because he wants Steve to hurt as much as he’s hurting right now. For him, it’s not even about Peggy — it’s about the fact that for the first time, their roles have been reversed, and he hates it. He’s realising how tough it must have been for Steve to be treated the way he was, but instead of empathizing, instead of following Steve’s lead, he lashes out. He doesn’t accept his new role as the invisible one; he tries to put Steve back in his place.
And I think it’s really telling, too, that Steve doesn’t rise to it. Bucky’s being an asshole, but it’s probably not the first time. He recognises this meanness in Bucky and he turns it back on him. I imagine that Steve might even be parroting back to him something Bucky’s said to him before — “don’t take it so hard; maybe she’s got a friend.” If Bucky’s pushing against the new order of things, Steve’s pushing back. He’s not going to let Bucky put him back in his old place, because that’s not how things are anymore. And Bucky can either take it or leave it, but Steve’s just not going to take the bait, not anymore.
I kinda think that this is what Sebstan’s getting at when he says that you can see hints of the Winter Soldier even in TFA. It’s not just about his coldness or his ruthlessness; it’s about his hard edges, where he comes up against his own best friend and even his own better judgment. It’s moments like this where you can see that he’s not a good man, at least not the way Steve is. Neither one of them can just let things go, but the difference is that the fights Steve picks are with people who (at least in his own mind) deserve it, while the fights that Bucky picks are with people who don’t. Both of them are impulsive, but there’s a hard-edged cruelty to Bucky that makes him almost thoughtless — that if he just thought about what he was saying or doing, he might be more careful or even caring, but it’s only afterwards, when he has time to reflect, that any of this occurs to him.
So… all of this is to say that I don’t really buy the characterization of Bucky as someone who is avowedly and self-consciously protective of Steve. Bucky is mean to Steve, albeit not always in ways that he doesn’t deserve. (See also: when he calls out Steve for feeling like he has to prove something by enlisting.) Of course, he’s mean in ways that betray long years of friendship; he wouldn’t be able to get under Steve’s skin so well if he didn’t know him so well. But it’s clear that the long years of intimacy between them haven’t just wrought affection, but darker feelings as well: jealousy, resentment — and they go both ways.
Bucky may well protect Steve, but I don’t think it’s a conscious decision. If anything, it strikes me more as possessiveness than it does protectiveness. Steve is his friend, which means he’s Bucky’s to joke with, to scheme with, to boss around, to pick fights with, to be mean to. If he pulls Steve out of fights, it’s because if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, it’s going to be him. But if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, then they better also laugh with him and cry with him and drink with him and be with him, and no one’s going to do those things better than Bucky. So if Bucky’s protectiveness — possessiveness — whatever — comes from anywhere, it comes from a place of jealousy, because Steve makes him feel good about himself. He makes him feel good and strong and capable, and Bucky needs him around to keep doing that because Bucky doesn’t feel those things about himself on his own.
And Captain America already makes Bucky feel diminished.
And that’s where the Winter Soldier comes from. If you take away Steve, Bucky’s left with only the bad parts of himself in his own mind. The good parts are still there, but he just can’t see them. He becomes invisible inside his own head.

#shit #i actually really like this because it comes from a place where bucky isn’t a perfect person (or even always a nice one) #whereas sometimes i see things that make bucky seem like WHAT AN AMAZING FRIEND but…still have him being weird and jealous and possessive #like #i can totally see bucky feeling put out that steve is bigger now and doesn’t NEED him anymore #bc steve needing him always #always made bucky feel big and strong and worthy #but that’s not good that’s not a GOOD feeling #him feeling jealous of steve would be petty and small in a way friends can sometimes be #in a realistic way #as long as you acknowledge how that would be a bad thing i think we can and should bounce off of that (via pageleaf)

Hrm.  See, I’ve thought a lot about this scene, well before reading this, and about what’s going on, because it is, unquestionably, really mean, and Steve’s response is, at best, dismissive.  But…I don’t see what this person sees.
I see fear.  For so, so long now, Steve has been Bucky’s (and yes, I don’t question that Bucky is possessive) and Bucky never had to worry about sharing Steve because nobody SAW Steve.  And a) that probably made Bucky feel special for the fact that he did, but b) it meant he didn’t have to worry about Steve liking someone better/being okay without him/LEAVING him.
Except now he has to worry about ALL of those things, at once.  After years and years and years of this being the surety part of their relationship.  Steve could, you know, be taken out by a stray cold wind or a fight that went too far, but so long as he was alive, he was Bucky’s and Bucky would always have him.
So, no, I don’t see this as resentment.  Maybe anger, but not anger at Steve so much as anger at a world that took that surety from him.  And definitely pure, blind panic that Steve is finally going to realize he can do better than Bucky.  That Bucky—in his mind—has never been the prize, people were just fooled by the outside.
Now Steve can have whatever prize he desires.  And Bucky’s 99% certain it’s not going to be him.  Given that, he’d better push Steve away, better prepare himself as best he can.
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arsenicjade:

dammit-mcu:

therealdeepsix:

fyeahwintersoldier:


#this scene is so sad cry with me #the foreshadowing hahah b y e #the way he delivers that line with this sort of defeated humility like dam n seb #the scene wasn’t just a punch line for him and you could feel that

Those tags. Perfect

But what I don’t get is why we don’t see more of this in fic. Because even knowing the circumstances, for Bucky to say something like that to Steve is straight up mean, and he knows it. He has to know how personally Steve took his perpetual failure to be noticed; Steve didn’t really make much of a secret of it. He knows that this is one of Steve’s insecurities, and he goes right for it, because he wants Steve to hurt as much as he’s hurting right now. For him, it’s not even about Peggy — it’s about the fact that for the first time, their roles have been reversed, and he hates it. He’s realising how tough it must have been for Steve to be treated the way he was, but instead of empathizing, instead of following Steve’s lead, he lashes out. He doesn’t accept his new role as the invisible one; he tries to put Steve back in his place.
And I think it’s really telling, too, that Steve doesn’t rise to it. Bucky’s being an asshole, but it’s probably not the first time. He recognises this meanness in Bucky and he turns it back on him. I imagine that Steve might even be parroting back to him something Bucky’s said to him before — “don’t take it so hard; maybe she’s got a friend.” If Bucky’s pushing against the new order of things, Steve’s pushing back. He’s not going to let Bucky put him back in his old place, because that’s not how things are anymore. And Bucky can either take it or leave it, but Steve’s just not going to take the bait, not anymore.
I kinda think that this is what Sebstan’s getting at when he says that you can see hints of the Winter Soldier even in TFA. It’s not just about his coldness or his ruthlessness; it’s about his hard edges, where he comes up against his own best friend and even his own better judgment. It’s moments like this where you can see that he’s not a good man, at least not the way Steve is. Neither one of them can just let things go, but the difference is that the fights Steve picks are with people who (at least in his own mind) deserve it, while the fights that Bucky picks are with people who don’t. Both of them are impulsive, but there’s a hard-edged cruelty to Bucky that makes him almost thoughtless — that if he just thought about what he was saying or doing, he might be more careful or even caring, but it’s only afterwards, when he has time to reflect, that any of this occurs to him.
So… all of this is to say that I don’t really buy the characterization of Bucky as someone who is avowedly and self-consciously protective of Steve. Bucky is mean to Steve, albeit not always in ways that he doesn’t deserve. (See also: when he calls out Steve for feeling like he has to prove something by enlisting.) Of course, he’s mean in ways that betray long years of friendship; he wouldn’t be able to get under Steve’s skin so well if he didn’t know him so well. But it’s clear that the long years of intimacy between them haven’t just wrought affection, but darker feelings as well: jealousy, resentment — and they go both ways.
Bucky may well protect Steve, but I don’t think it’s a conscious decision. If anything, it strikes me more as possessiveness than it does protectiveness. Steve is his friend, which means he’s Bucky’s to joke with, to scheme with, to boss around, to pick fights with, to be mean to. If he pulls Steve out of fights, it’s because if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, it’s going to be him. But if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, then they better also laugh with him and cry with him and drink with him and be with him, and no one’s going to do those things better than Bucky. So if Bucky’s protectiveness — possessiveness — whatever — comes from anywhere, it comes from a place of jealousy, because Steve makes him feel good about himself. He makes him feel good and strong and capable, and Bucky needs him around to keep doing that because Bucky doesn’t feel those things about himself on his own.
And Captain America already makes Bucky feel diminished.
And that’s where the Winter Soldier comes from. If you take away Steve, Bucky’s left with only the bad parts of himself in his own mind. The good parts are still there, but he just can’t see them. He becomes invisible inside his own head.

#shit #i actually really like this because it comes from a place where bucky isn’t a perfect person (or even always a nice one) #whereas sometimes i see things that make bucky seem like WHAT AN AMAZING FRIEND but…still have him being weird and jealous and possessive #like #i can totally see bucky feeling put out that steve is bigger now and doesn’t NEED him anymore #bc steve needing him always #always made bucky feel big and strong and worthy #but that’s not good that’s not a GOOD feeling #him feeling jealous of steve would be petty and small in a way friends can sometimes be #in a realistic way #as long as you acknowledge how that would be a bad thing i think we can and should bounce off of that (via pageleaf)

Hrm.  See, I’ve thought a lot about this scene, well before reading this, and about what’s going on, because it is, unquestionably, really mean, and Steve’s response is, at best, dismissive.  But…I don’t see what this person sees.
I see fear.  For so, so long now, Steve has been Bucky’s (and yes, I don’t question that Bucky is possessive) and Bucky never had to worry about sharing Steve because nobody SAW Steve.  And a) that probably made Bucky feel special for the fact that he did, but b) it meant he didn’t have to worry about Steve liking someone better/being okay without him/LEAVING him.
Except now he has to worry about ALL of those things, at once.  After years and years and years of this being the surety part of their relationship.  Steve could, you know, be taken out by a stray cold wind or a fight that went too far, but so long as he was alive, he was Bucky’s and Bucky would always have him.
So, no, I don’t see this as resentment.  Maybe anger, but not anger at Steve so much as anger at a world that took that surety from him.  And definitely pure, blind panic that Steve is finally going to realize he can do better than Bucky.  That Bucky—in his mind—has never been the prize, people were just fooled by the outside.
Now Steve can have whatever prize he desires.  And Bucky’s 99% certain it’s not going to be him.  Given that, he’d better push Steve away, better prepare himself as best he can.
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arsenicjade:

dammit-mcu:

therealdeepsix:

fyeahwintersoldier:


#this scene is so sad cry with me #the foreshadowing hahah b y e #the way he delivers that line with this sort of defeated humility like dam n seb #the scene wasn’t just a punch line for him and you could feel that

Those tags. Perfect

But what I don’t get is why we don’t see more of this in fic. Because even knowing the circumstances, for Bucky to say something like that to Steve is straight up mean, and he knows it. He has to know how personally Steve took his perpetual failure to be noticed; Steve didn’t really make much of a secret of it. He knows that this is one of Steve’s insecurities, and he goes right for it, because he wants Steve to hurt as much as he’s hurting right now. For him, it’s not even about Peggy — it’s about the fact that for the first time, their roles have been reversed, and he hates it. He’s realising how tough it must have been for Steve to be treated the way he was, but instead of empathizing, instead of following Steve’s lead, he lashes out. He doesn’t accept his new role as the invisible one; he tries to put Steve back in his place.
And I think it’s really telling, too, that Steve doesn’t rise to it. Bucky’s being an asshole, but it’s probably not the first time. He recognises this meanness in Bucky and he turns it back on him. I imagine that Steve might even be parroting back to him something Bucky’s said to him before — “don’t take it so hard; maybe she’s got a friend.” If Bucky’s pushing against the new order of things, Steve’s pushing back. He’s not going to let Bucky put him back in his old place, because that’s not how things are anymore. And Bucky can either take it or leave it, but Steve’s just not going to take the bait, not anymore.
I kinda think that this is what Sebstan’s getting at when he says that you can see hints of the Winter Soldier even in TFA. It’s not just about his coldness or his ruthlessness; it’s about his hard edges, where he comes up against his own best friend and even his own better judgment. It’s moments like this where you can see that he’s not a good man, at least not the way Steve is. Neither one of them can just let things go, but the difference is that the fights Steve picks are with people who (at least in his own mind) deserve it, while the fights that Bucky picks are with people who don’t. Both of them are impulsive, but there’s a hard-edged cruelty to Bucky that makes him almost thoughtless — that if he just thought about what he was saying or doing, he might be more careful or even caring, but it’s only afterwards, when he has time to reflect, that any of this occurs to him.
So… all of this is to say that I don’t really buy the characterization of Bucky as someone who is avowedly and self-consciously protective of Steve. Bucky is mean to Steve, albeit not always in ways that he doesn’t deserve. (See also: when he calls out Steve for feeling like he has to prove something by enlisting.) Of course, he’s mean in ways that betray long years of friendship; he wouldn’t be able to get under Steve’s skin so well if he didn’t know him so well. But it’s clear that the long years of intimacy between them haven’t just wrought affection, but darker feelings as well: jealousy, resentment — and they go both ways.
Bucky may well protect Steve, but I don’t think it’s a conscious decision. If anything, it strikes me more as possessiveness than it does protectiveness. Steve is his friend, which means he’s Bucky’s to joke with, to scheme with, to boss around, to pick fights with, to be mean to. If he pulls Steve out of fights, it’s because if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, it’s going to be him. But if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, then they better also laugh with him and cry with him and drink with him and be with him, and no one’s going to do those things better than Bucky. So if Bucky’s protectiveness — possessiveness — whatever — comes from anywhere, it comes from a place of jealousy, because Steve makes him feel good about himself. He makes him feel good and strong and capable, and Bucky needs him around to keep doing that because Bucky doesn’t feel those things about himself on his own.
And Captain America already makes Bucky feel diminished.
And that’s where the Winter Soldier comes from. If you take away Steve, Bucky’s left with only the bad parts of himself in his own mind. The good parts are still there, but he just can’t see them. He becomes invisible inside his own head.

#shit #i actually really like this because it comes from a place where bucky isn’t a perfect person (or even always a nice one) #whereas sometimes i see things that make bucky seem like WHAT AN AMAZING FRIEND but…still have him being weird and jealous and possessive #like #i can totally see bucky feeling put out that steve is bigger now and doesn’t NEED him anymore #bc steve needing him always #always made bucky feel big and strong and worthy #but that’s not good that’s not a GOOD feeling #him feeling jealous of steve would be petty and small in a way friends can sometimes be #in a realistic way #as long as you acknowledge how that would be a bad thing i think we can and should bounce off of that (via pageleaf)

Hrm.  See, I’ve thought a lot about this scene, well before reading this, and about what’s going on, because it is, unquestionably, really mean, and Steve’s response is, at best, dismissive.  But…I don’t see what this person sees.
I see fear.  For so, so long now, Steve has been Bucky’s (and yes, I don’t question that Bucky is possessive) and Bucky never had to worry about sharing Steve because nobody SAW Steve.  And a) that probably made Bucky feel special for the fact that he did, but b) it meant he didn’t have to worry about Steve liking someone better/being okay without him/LEAVING him.
Except now he has to worry about ALL of those things, at once.  After years and years and years of this being the surety part of their relationship.  Steve could, you know, be taken out by a stray cold wind or a fight that went too far, but so long as he was alive, he was Bucky’s and Bucky would always have him.
So, no, I don’t see this as resentment.  Maybe anger, but not anger at Steve so much as anger at a world that took that surety from him.  And definitely pure, blind panic that Steve is finally going to realize he can do better than Bucky.  That Bucky—in his mind—has never been the prize, people were just fooled by the outside.
Now Steve can have whatever prize he desires.  And Bucky’s 99% certain it’s not going to be him.  Given that, he’d better push Steve away, better prepare himself as best he can.
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dammit-mcu:

therealdeepsix:

fyeahwintersoldier:


#this scene is so sad cry with me #the foreshadowing hahah b y e #the way he delivers that line with this sort of defeated humility like dam n seb #the scene wasn’t just a punch line for him and you could feel that

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But what I don’t get is why we don’t see more of this in fic. Because even knowing the circumstances, for Bucky to say something like that to Steve is straight up mean, and he knows it. He has to know how personally Steve took his perpetual failure to be noticed; Steve didn’t really make much of a secret of it. He knows that this is one of Steve’s insecurities, and he goes right for it, because he wants Steve to hurt as much as he’s hurting right now. For him, it’s not even about Peggy — it’s about the fact that for the first time, their roles have been reversed, and he hates it. He’s realising how tough it must have been for Steve to be treated the way he was, but instead of empathizing, instead of following Steve’s lead, he lashes out. He doesn’t accept his new role as the invisible one; he tries to put Steve back in his place.
And I think it’s really telling, too, that Steve doesn’t rise to it. Bucky’s being an asshole, but it’s probably not the first time. He recognises this meanness in Bucky and he turns it back on him. I imagine that Steve might even be parroting back to him something Bucky’s said to him before — “don’t take it so hard; maybe she’s got a friend.” If Bucky’s pushing against the new order of things, Steve’s pushing back. He’s not going to let Bucky put him back in his old place, because that’s not how things are anymore. And Bucky can either take it or leave it, but Steve’s just not going to take the bait, not anymore.
I kinda think that this is what Sebstan’s getting at when he says that you can see hints of the Winter Soldier even in TFA. It’s not just about his coldness or his ruthlessness; it’s about his hard edges, where he comes up against his own best friend and even his own better judgment. It’s moments like this where you can see that he’s not a good man, at least not the way Steve is. Neither one of them can just let things go, but the difference is that the fights Steve picks are with people who (at least in his own mind) deserve it, while the fights that Bucky picks are with people who don’t. Both of them are impulsive, but there’s a hard-edged cruelty to Bucky that makes him almost thoughtless — that if he just thought about what he was saying or doing, he might be more careful or even caring, but it’s only afterwards, when he has time to reflect, that any of this occurs to him.
So… all of this is to say that I don’t really buy the characterization of Bucky as someone who is avowedly and self-consciously protective of Steve. Bucky is mean to Steve, albeit not always in ways that he doesn’t deserve. (See also: when he calls out Steve for feeling like he has to prove something by enlisting.) Of course, he’s mean in ways that betray long years of friendship; he wouldn’t be able to get under Steve’s skin so well if he didn’t know him so well. But it’s clear that the long years of intimacy between them haven’t just wrought affection, but darker feelings as well: jealousy, resentment — and they go both ways.
Bucky may well protect Steve, but I don’t think it’s a conscious decision. If anything, it strikes me more as possessiveness than it does protectiveness. Steve is his friend, which means he’s Bucky’s to joke with, to scheme with, to boss around, to pick fights with, to be mean to. If he pulls Steve out of fights, it’s because if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, it’s going to be him. But if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, then they better also laugh with him and cry with him and drink with him and be with him, and no one’s going to do those things better than Bucky. So if Bucky’s protectiveness — possessiveness — whatever — comes from anywhere, it comes from a place of jealousy, because Steve makes him feel good about himself. He makes him feel good and strong and capable, and Bucky needs him around to keep doing that because Bucky doesn’t feel those things about himself on his own.
And Captain America already makes Bucky feel diminished.
And that’s where the Winter Soldier comes from. If you take away Steve, Bucky’s left with only the bad parts of himself in his own mind. The good parts are still there, but he just can’t see them. He becomes invisible inside his own head.

#shit #i actually really like this because it comes from a place where bucky isn’t a perfect person (or even always a nice one) #whereas sometimes i see things that make bucky seem like WHAT AN AMAZING FRIEND but…still have him being weird and jealous and possessive #like #i can totally see bucky feeling put out that steve is bigger now and doesn’t NEED him anymore #bc steve needing him always #always made bucky feel big and strong and worthy #but that’s not good that’s not a GOOD feeling #him feeling jealous of steve would be petty and small in a way friends can sometimes be #in a realistic way #as long as you acknowledge how that would be a bad thing i think we can and should bounce off of that (via pageleaf)

Hrm.  See, I’ve thought a lot about this scene, well before reading this, and about what’s going on, because it is, unquestionably, really mean, and Steve’s response is, at best, dismissive.  But…I don’t see what this person sees.
I see fear.  For so, so long now, Steve has been Bucky’s (and yes, I don’t question that Bucky is possessive) and Bucky never had to worry about sharing Steve because nobody SAW Steve.  And a) that probably made Bucky feel special for the fact that he did, but b) it meant he didn’t have to worry about Steve liking someone better/being okay without him/LEAVING him.
Except now he has to worry about ALL of those things, at once.  After years and years and years of this being the surety part of their relationship.  Steve could, you know, be taken out by a stray cold wind or a fight that went too far, but so long as he was alive, he was Bucky’s and Bucky would always have him.
So, no, I don’t see this as resentment.  Maybe anger, but not anger at Steve so much as anger at a world that took that surety from him.  And definitely pure, blind panic that Steve is finally going to realize he can do better than Bucky.  That Bucky—in his mind—has never been the prize, people were just fooled by the outside.
Now Steve can have whatever prize he desires.  And Bucky’s 99% certain it’s not going to be him.  Given that, he’d better push Steve away, better prepare himself as best he can.
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dammit-mcu:

therealdeepsix:

fyeahwintersoldier:

   

Those tags. Perfect

But what I don’t get is why we don’t see more of this in fic. Because even knowing the circumstances, for Bucky to say something like that to Steve is straight up mean, and he knows it. He has to know how personally Steve took his perpetual failure to be noticed; Steve didn’t really make much of a secret of it. He knows that this is one of Steve’s insecurities, and he goes right for it, because he wants Steve to hurt as much as he’s hurting right now. For him, it’s not even about Peggy — it’s about the fact that for the first time, their roles have been reversed, and he hates it. He’s realising how tough it must have been for Steve to be treated the way he was, but instead of empathizing, instead of following Steve’s lead, he lashes out. He doesn’t accept his new role as the invisible one; he tries to put Steve back in his place.

And I think it’s really telling, too, that Steve doesn’t rise to it. Bucky’s being an asshole, but it’s probably not the first time. He recognises this meanness in Bucky and he turns it back on him. I imagine that Steve might even be parroting back to him something Bucky’s said to him before — “don’t take it so hard; maybe she’s got a friend.” If Bucky’s pushing against the new order of things, Steve’s pushing back. He’s not going to let Bucky put him back in his old place, because that’s not how things are anymore. And Bucky can either take it or leave it, but Steve’s just not going to take the bait, not anymore.

I kinda think that this is what Sebstan’s getting at when he says that you can see hints of the Winter Soldier even in TFA. It’s not just about his coldness or his ruthlessness; it’s about his hard edges, where he comes up against his own best friend and even his own better judgment. It’s moments like this where you can see that he’s not a good man, at least not the way Steve is. Neither one of them can just let things go, but the difference is that the fights Steve picks are with people who (at least in his own mind) deserve it, while the fights that Bucky picks are with people who don’t. Both of them are impulsive, but there’s a hard-edged cruelty to Bucky that makes him almost thoughtless — that if he just thought about what he was saying or doing, he might be more careful or even caring, but it’s only afterwards, when he has time to reflect, that any of this occurs to him.

So… all of this is to say that I don’t really buy the characterization of Bucky as someone who is avowedly and self-consciously protective of Steve. Bucky is mean to Steve, albeit not always in ways that he doesn’t deserve. (See also: when he calls out Steve for feeling like he has to prove something by enlisting.) Of course, he’s mean in ways that betray long years of friendship; he wouldn’t be able to get under Steve’s skin so well if he didn’t know him so well. But it’s clear that the long years of intimacy between them haven’t just wrought affection, but darker feelings as well: jealousy, resentment — and they go both ways.

Bucky may well protect Steve, but I don’t think it’s a conscious decision. If anything, it strikes me more as possessiveness than it does protectiveness. Steve is his friend, which means he’s Bucky’s to joke with, to scheme with, to boss around, to pick fights with, to be mean to. If he pulls Steve out of fights, it’s because if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, it’s going to be him. But if anyone’s going to fuck with Steve, then they better also laugh with him and cry with him and drink with him and be with him, and no one’s going to do those things better than Bucky. So if Bucky’s protectiveness — possessiveness — whatever — comes from anywhere, it comes from a place of jealousy, because Steve makes him feel good about himself. He makes him feel good and strong and capable, and Bucky needs him around to keep doing that because Bucky doesn’t feel those things about himself on his own.

And Captain America already makes Bucky feel diminished.

And that’s where the Winter Soldier comes from. If you take away Steve, Bucky’s left with only the bad parts of himself in his own mind. The good parts are still there, but he just can’t see them. He becomes invisible inside his own head.

           (via pageleaf)

Hrm.  See, I’ve thought a lot about this scene, well before reading this, and about what’s going on, because it is, unquestionably, really mean, and Steve’s response is, at best, dismissive.  But…I don’t see what this person sees.

I see fear.  For so, so long now, Steve has been Bucky’s (and yes, I don’t question that Bucky is possessive) and Bucky never had to worry about sharing Steve because nobody SAW Steve.  And a) that probably made Bucky feel special for the fact that he did, but b) it meant he didn’t have to worry about Steve liking someone better/being okay without him/LEAVING him.

Except now he has to worry about ALL of those things, at once.  After years and years and years of this being the surety part of their relationship.  Steve could, you know, be taken out by a stray cold wind or a fight that went too far, but so long as he was alive, he was Bucky’s and Bucky would always have him.

So, no, I don’t see this as resentment.  Maybe anger, but not anger at Steve so much as anger at a world that took that surety from him.  And definitely pure, blind panic that Steve is finally going to realize he can do better than Bucky.  That Bucky—in his mind—has never been the prize, people were just fooled by the outside.

Now Steve can have whatever prize he desires.  And Bucky’s 99% certain it’s not going to be him.  Given that, he’d better push Steve away, better prepare himself as best he can.

gavi-gavi:

Have some flower crown Team Avatar to cheer you up after that last season of Korra!
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Here’s my second print to go with my chocobo one… I didn’t get as much done this summer as I thought I would, but I think the stuff I did get to came out really well!
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gavi-gavi:

Have some flower crown Team Avatar to cheer you up after that last season of Korra!
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Here’s my second print to go with my chocobo one… I didn’t get as much done this summer as I thought I would, but I think the stuff I did get to came out really well!
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gavi-gavi:

Have some flower crown Team Avatar to cheer you up after that last season of Korra!

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Here’s my second print to go with my chocobo one… I didn’t get as much done this summer as I thought I would, but I think the stuff I did get to came out really well!

davidbyrne:

i love laughing about the friend zone because it’s so dumb like you know most of those dudes aren’t even IN the “friend zone” they’re in the “ugh god not this dude again” zone